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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
Point Blank Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.07 00:18:00 -
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Mhari Dson wrote:
Ok, I'm a carebear and I can see neither of those fits working in pvp except as KM feeders for other people.
You should probably stick to carebearing. The HAM fit is pretty cookie cutter, and the HML is pretty standard, too, other than HMLs sucking balls.
Quote: next time set eft to show your applied damage vs a sig of 40 instead of 4,000.
Why? Medium weapons are designed primarily to deal damage to cruisers. Which cruiser has a sig radius of 40m?
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
Point Blank Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.07 02:28:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Why? Medium weapons are designed primarily to deal damage to cruisers. Which cruiser has a sig radius of 40m? 40m or 400m - won't matter for HMLs if the target is moving. The only way HMLs have a limited chance of working in PvP is with a 100MN Tengu running nanos and rigors. A target painter wouldn't hurt, either.
As I noted. HMLs are ****. There's still nothing functionally wrong with either fit. The rest of the fit can't help that HMLs are in a sorry place right now.
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
Point Blank Alliance
2282
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Posted - 2014.01.09 23:59:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:The DPS with 10-round capacity/10-second reload.
At the point that you drop this module back to a 10 second reload, you have invalidated the fundamental purpose to the change, and may as well slow them back down, revert the ammo capacity to pre-Rubicon, and leave them the way they were originally.
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
Point Blank Alliance
2283
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Posted - 2014.01.10 20:03:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Basically, yes. Expand ammunition capacity to 28 rounds (T2), keep the reload at 40-seconds and implement a 10-second ammunition type swap. What I might suggest with respect to the ammunition swap is to only replenish 25% of the ammunition capacity when you switch types thus allowing it to also function as an emergency reload.
That's an awful lot of bandaids to apply to a now fundamentally flawed and broken system.
Where CCP ****** up, and will mot admit that they ****** up, was in altering the original Rapid Missile modules. Instead of offering choice via introducing a new Rapid Missile module that would let pilots make situational fitting choices, the Devs squatted down and took a fat **** in the sandbox by altering an already functioning system, rendering it into a niche toy, and removing choice.
Now they are left with dissatisfied customers, and repair iterations that may not be seen until the next expansion, all because someone decided to start experimenting at the last moment. Change can be good, but when you shovel away all the excuses and manure heaped on top of these changes as justification, we arrive at the fact that this was change simply for the sake of change, because Rise or someone else decided a week or two before Rubicon that they had a clever idea.
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
Point Blank Alliance
2284
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Posted - 2014.01.10 21:08:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:That's an awful lot of bandaids to apply to a now fundamentally flawed and broken system. Increasing the ammunition capacity isn't a band-aid; it was probably cut too drastically in the first release. As for the ammunition swap, this is a feature that's been requested (and we have acknowledgement they're working on) - but I don't see a way of preventing abuse unless we limit it to replenishing only 25% with a 10-second reload. Otherwise you could abuse this to go from T2 Scourge Fury to Faction Scourge and back again.
That much alteration simply to bring these modules in line with the normal operation of other ammunition based weapon systems is nothing less than a band-aid; it frankly borders on life-saving measures. As it is, CCP will apparently have to devise an entirely new loading system for these things in order to allow one to swap ammo, while still retaining the deplorable core function of a long combat reload.
The whole thing could have been easily avoided, and could be easily rectified, by simply introducing the current iteration of Rapid Missiles as an entirely new module class; something that they were very likely loathe to do for fear that the idea would flop on its face if they did not force the player base into using it as they have done.
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
Point Blank Alliance
2335
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Posted - 2014.01.17 05:15:00 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:I think what CCP looks for is you to...
...shut up and like it.
I don't expect to see Rise darken this thread again for any reason anytime soon.
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
Point Blank Alliance
2335
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Posted - 2014.01.17 06:45:00 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:Caleb Seremshur wrote:I think what CCP looks for is you to... ...shut up and like it. I don't expect to see Rise darken this thread again for any reason anytime soon. The joke was it's too much effort for the average player and involves information that is too hard to acquire. Usage has dropped by 40% which is within "anticipated levels and acceptable boundaries" or someshit. In other words they wanted to kill a brand new weapons system before it even happened.
Oh, I know what the joke was. If any numbers are obtained at all, it's more of CCP's unreferenced percentages.
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
Point Blank Alliance
2335
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Posted - 2014.01.17 06:50:00 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:scorchlikeshiswhiskey wrote:So post 1.1 I can overheat my TC's to improve turret application, but I still have no mid slot missile mod? I am totally and utterly un-surprised. You know, I've said this from the outset: TPs were never the "must have" module that many players made them out to be. Any way you slice it, these are broad nerfs to the affected systems and they're going to be more capacitor, heat and management-intensive to replicate previous efforts. I'm still optimistic CCP Rise is going to come through for us with a small adjustment to RLML and RHML ammunition capacity. 
Hell, I don't even care that you can OH them. I'll just work around the nerf, and keep using my midslot heat allotment for propmods and tackle like always. It'll be a rare day at all that I ever OH on a dedicated ewar ship; those mods are my job, and they need to be available until I'm down or we leave the field. I can't afford to 'oops' burn them out in a fleet, since others are depending on them.
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
Point Blank Alliance
2410
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Posted - 2014.02.12 02:39:00 -
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Moonaura wrote:Oh god, it looks like this thread has... finally... finally... died a decent death.
Only half correct. It gave birth to a bastard son because Rise cba to read through the half of this one he ignored and went on vacation for.
The topic is still completely relevant; Rise just had to take a few moments to pop a squat and fertilize the drone assist garden for a while. He'll be back to see how his prize petunias are doing soon enough.
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